Austrian Immersion, Part 1 – By Jack Simmonds, Hahndorf Hill Brand Ambassador

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Day 1 – Eisenstadt, Burgenland

Austrian varietals take pride of place in the Hahndorf Hill portfolio and the wine racks of many of our customers. My mission was to immerse myself in Austria’s world-famous wines and wine regions to gain a better appreciation of the geography, styles, culture and people that turn out such consistently enchanting wines.
Given the enormity of such an assignment I needed a strategy, so I decided on “divide and conquer”. Unlike almost all Australian wine regions that produce both reds and whites, the Austrians (for the most part) pick a side, so I devoted my first few days to Austria’s red heartland, the region of Burgenland.
The capital of Burgenland is the large picturesque town of Eisenstadt, only a short ride by train from Vienna airport.   It was a beautiful clear and warm afternoon as I stepped off the train to a stunning vista of church spires, museums and stately homes climbing the hill on which Eisenstadt is built.

Hahndorf Hill Blaufrankisch tour Austria

Jack Simmonds, Brand Ambassador for Hahndorf Hill Winery, outside the Selektion Vinothek in Eisenstadt

First stop was the Selektion Vinothek – a very classy wine bar and shop opposite the stunning Esterhazy Palace. (Vinothek is the title given to a wine tasting and retail space, often featuring only local wines arranged into flights or by the glass.)
The very well trained staff were more than happy to pull out all the stops for a true believer in what has made their region famous: Blaufrankisch, Zweigelt, St Laurent and blends. After testing my credentials with a “decoy” wine, they told me to disregard the menu and strap in for the staffs’ favourites arranged into flights.
Three stand-outs were:
Hillinger “Jois” Gruner Veltliner 2013, from the region of Leithaberg. 13.5%. The rich golden straw colour of this wine gave me a hint of what I was in for. Honey and toasted buttery bread from the liberal use of French oak leapt from the glass to tease and provoke the nose. Creamy spiced pear and stewed apple demand your attention at first then the famous white pepper notes and very well balanced acid keep this animal on a tight leash. I am a big fan; this wine would appeal to lovers of big rich Chardonnays and Rhone blends.
Moric “Haus Marke” 2014 Cuvee, from Grosshoflien. 12.5%. A blend of the region’s superstars, Blau 40%, Zwei 40% and St Laurent 20%, this wine had a nose that captivated me straight away. Musky plum, cherry, white pepper and a slight bloody aroma all work together to build a platform for the curiously light palate. White pepper and sage upfront, then delicate oak and woody spices carry you through the long finish. Grazing platters of cured meats, cheese, dried fruits and olives would be the perfect way to enjoy this gem.
Kloster Am Spitz “Muschelkalk” 2014, From Purbach. 14%. Dark crimson and burgundy in colour with a distinct clearing rim, this Blau/Cab Sauv blend has the most perfumed nose yet. Reminiscent of fine pinot with aromatics of heavy, ripe plums and cherries tail off to delicate and slightly medicinal notes. Dry red and black fruits waltz gracefully with woody spices, while the oak/acid balance is spot on. This wine had the highest alcohol so far but was the most composed and very Aussie friendly; I could very easily blow a week’s wages on this one!
Side Note: Eisenstadt’s skyline is dominated by the bell tower of the Domplatz Cathedral, which needs only the flimsiest of excuses to peel out across the town. This combined with the resident population of roughly 17 trillion cuckoo birds (no two of which agree on the time) makes for a background soundtrack of joyous ding dongs versus constant avian objection and dissent.

Day 2 –  Deutschkreutz, Burgenland

The Deutschkreutz Vinatrium

The spiritual centre of Austrian reds is the small village of Deutschkreutz, a town in the region of Mittelburgenland close to the Hungarian border. Deutschkreutz identifies as “red centric” but not in the sense the typical Australian consumer of Barossa or Coonawarra wines would recognise; the wines here run the gamut from delicate and sophisticated rosè through to medium-bodied beauties and titanic oak bombs.
Regardless of variety, style, region or price, balance is the metric by which we must measure quality and there are scores of well balanced and exciting wines from all over Burgenland to be found in the Deutschkreutz Vinatrium.
A self-service co-operative on the high street only a short walk from the train station that has over 100 local reds open to taste at any one time, you can work your way through them all for only 15 euros. Deep underground in a converted cellar a lucky wine fan can move from station to station tasting bottles from all over the region and covering every style and price point.
Blaufrankisch is the dominant variety in Burgenland, with Zweigelt, St Laurent, Cabernet and Merlot also readily available.
I tasted several excellent straight varietals but it was the blends or “cuvee’s” as the Austrians call them that made the biggest impression on me.
Rotweingut Lang, Blaufrankisch Reserve 2013, 14%. Dark as night with just a suggestion of purple at the rim this magnetic red is perfumed with earthy black/blue fruits and violet floral notes. True to form this wine delivers exactly what the nose and colour promised; dark brooding forest fruits, earthy spice and a whisper of fine oak. Clean acid and chalky tannins make for a satisfyingly long finish.
Various Cuvee’s
An exceedingly strong group of blends got me very excited. If I were to peer into a crystal ball I am sure I would spy a Blau-dominant blend in Hahndorf Hill’s future, and if the range I tasted was as typical of Burgenland’s production as I was led to believe, than we will has some very stiff competition.
The stand-out examples all showed delicate spicy and violet aromatic notes on the nose with cured meats, woody spices and dark forest berries complemented by complex and delicate tannins on the palate. All had stamina and would be a very welcome guest at any table.
Bouer-Poltl, Domus Petri 2013, Blaufrankisch/Zweigelt/Merlot, 13%
Artner, Cuvee Falcon 2013, Merlot/Blau/Zweigelt, 14%
Reumann, Equinox, 2015, Zweigelt/Blau/Merlot, 13%
Gesellman, ZB*, 2015, Blaufrankisch/Zweigelt/Blauburgunder, 13%
Hans Igler, AB Ericio 2012, Blaufrankisch/Merlot/Zweigelt 14%
Regional Austria is very observant of their religious traditions, Sundays in particular are very special. So although the excellent Vinatrium was open, very little else was. Deutschkreutz is home to several cellar doors or “weinguts” as they are known in Austria including the world-famous Hans Igler and Gesellemann, but both are open by appointment only, so call ahead.
Side Note: I have been working on an analogy to describe the way Blau works in a blend and I think I have it. Blaufrankisch is the Phil Collins of the wine world, a stellar solo act but an absolute superstar in a band. The Cuvees I tasted today have convinced me that when blended with care Blau, Zwei and St L become greater than the sum of their parts.

 Day 3 – Gols & Rust, Burgenland

A barrel full of fun

A train ride of 40 minutes from Eisenstadt across the open plain to the north/eastern shores of Lake Neusiedl brings me to the penultimate stop on my tour of Austria’s red country.
Gols is a small village that differs from those I have visited so far; it is noticeably greener with wider tree-lined streets and more open spaces. Gols puts me in mind of several Welsh villages I visited as a boy and is home to many wineries, the Weinkulturhaus Vinothek and my new bestie, Gerhard Pittnauer of Pittnauer Wines.
The Weinkulturhaus offers tastings of most of the local producers’ entry level wines and is a good place to start. I tasted around 20 wines for 15 Euros and while the co-op is open to anyone looking to explore local wines, my next experience was not.


After calling in every favour Hahndorf Hill has ever earned and deploying no small measure of my own charm, I was granted an appointment with the famous Gerhard Pittnauer.

Jack Simmonds and Gerhard Pittnauer

Since inheriting the winery from his father in 1984 at just eighteen, Gerhard (we are on a first name basis now) along with his wife Brigitte have worked tirelessly to reinvigorate the once crippled local industry.
The Pittnaur commitment to excellence paired with a focus on the “Holy Trinity” of Blaufrankisch, Zweigelt and St Laurent has resurrected not only his own business but along with a few like-minded neighbours, has helped to restore the reputation of a region that has been under vine since Roman times.
I have strolled through hundreds of vineyards, tasted through countless barrels and worked through entire portfolios before, but this was special. Gerhard was incredibly generous with his time, experience and wines. I could not find a wine in his whole range that I would not max out at least one credit card on.

I will not soon forget Gols.  I could have spent all day in Gols but I was told a village named Rust on the opposite side of the lake was a must-see so I made my way over. Arriving in mid afternoon I could tell after only a few minutes that I had done myself a disservice by not allocating a whole week to the most arresting village yet.
Rust was established over 1100 years ago and has elegant, winding streetscapes and architecture. Whilst home to many cellar doors the real icons of the village are 18 nesting pairs of stalks. The stalks make their nests on the chimney stacks of a select few homes and businesses; it is considered very lucky and is a source of tremendous pride by the residents to have their chimney chosen by a pair of stalks. One winery that must be singled out is Giefing; the wines are made with care, passion and are very reasonably priced. They were also happy to stay open after hours, insisting that I taste everything they thought I needed to. Lovely wines, lovely people.

The endless Pannonian plain of Burgenland

Summary: Burgenland is a vast plain of gently rolling hills clad in every shade of green. At its heart is Lake Neusiedl, an immense but very shallow body of water that has a significant effect on the region’s weather, particularly in the hot summer months. There is something universal about small country towns and villages the world over; the pace and rigidity of visiting city folk is anathema to the calm and open-hearted people that make such places their home. I was embraced and welcomed by the locals, particularly the kids who would giggle as they fed me constant questions just to hear me respond in a language they were familiar with but delivered in the most bizarre accent they had ever heard.
Side Note: Almost everyone claims a familial tie to Arnold Schwarzenegger!

Next month: Jack’s visit to the Kamptal wine region.


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Terrific Austrian varieties – 3

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In preparation for an upcoming trip to Austria by Jack Simmonds, our Brand Ambassador, the Hahndorf Hill cellar door held a staff tasting evening focussing on three Austrian varieties – Gruner Veltliner, Blaufrankisch and Saint Laurent.

Steininger ‘Grand Gru’ Gruner Veltliner – 2013, Kamptal Reserve, 14%
The first wine tried for the evening in the ‘blind’ line-up of Austrian (and Hahndorf Hill) wines. Deep, golden yellow in colour. The aroma instantly screamed Reserve Gruner; I was almost certain I had tried this wine previously, but had not. Beautifully rich pineapple and chamomile tea notes supported by creamy apple, hay, grass and subtle mixed herbs. Oak-work and malolactic fermentation noticeable on the palate with gorgeous creamy texture coating the edges of a citrus-based core. Plenty of fresh acidity, plenty of citrus keeping this modest, lively and refreshing.

Hahndorf Hill ‘Gru 2’ Gruner Veltliner – 2013, Adelaide Hills, 13.5%
Perhaps the most surprising wine to taste on the evening in many ways but for all the right reasons. I immediately thought that there had been a sneaky varietal thrown into the mix but time certainly changed my mind on that. Riesling-esque kerosene, key-lime and mineral notes were my first written notes; however within the space of a few minutes this wine had almost turned 180 degrees on me. Orange skin, dried peach and white pepper arose to the forefront by the time I had completed my first round of notes. Still fresh, very much so. Weighty, textural with serious length and authority.


Rabl ‘Dechant Alte Reben’ Gruner Veltliner – 2013, Kamptal Reserve, 14.0%
This wine didn’t quite have that same deep golden yellow colour that the last two wines had, yet what it had lacked in colour it certainly made up for in intensity. Unquestionably much riper and exotic in fruit character than the previous examples, displaying dried peach, pineapple, mango and ripe golden apples. There’s savoury elements and white pepper spice that sit in the background; no doubt this wine is all about the fruit. The one thing that drew me promptly to this wine was its density; that high intensity of aromas that leapt from the glass at first swirl followed directly through on the palate with power!

All three wines bringing great pleasure to drink, all for different reasons too. It was also amazing to see the differences across the three wines despite all wines being so varietal and fresh. Reserve Gruners age so gracefully and gorgeously and should never be overlooked for the cellar.

Krutzler Blaufrankisch Classic – 2013, Sudburgenland, 13%
Classic style Blaufrankisch, and as one would expect – no oak-work in sight. Raspberries, purple flowers, blueberries and sour cherry character. Grainy, floating tannin and berry-like acidity to add to its juiciness. It’s ever-so approachable and glides through the palate with breeze.

Hahndorf Hill ‘Blueblood’ Blaufrankisch – 2013, Adelaide Hills, 14%
Like all the other wines, tasted blind. This really intrigued me from the get-go and I have written in my notes that it really reminded me of red wine aged in port or sherry barrels. Beautifully ripe blue and black fruits with that aroma reminiscent of port, ever-so-faint raisin character and then sweet earthy, oak notes. The sweetness certainly isn’t reflective in the palate; however the ripe fruit characters are.



Kirnbauer ‘Goldberg Reserve’ Blaufrankisch – 2012, Mittelburgenland, 14%
This was such an insanely youthful feeling wine, especially for its bottle age (despite not knowing at the time). Very reminiscent of young Burgundian Pinot Noir. Fresh red cherries, sour cherry, dried meats, earth and faint vanilla pod perfume are the most pronounced aromas with whole bunch / smoky / fire notes to back. More-so on the medium-bodied spectrum with silky but firm tannins and that signature natural acidity that Blaufrankisch brings to the table. Long and rich finish. Delicious!

Hahndorf Hill ‘Blueblood’ Blaufrankisch – 2012, Adelaide Hills, 14%
All of the lush and fresh blue-fruited characters that I associate with the Hahndorf Hill Blaufrankisch have turned to rich, ripe dark fruits. Aromas of blackberry jam, blood plum and sweet baking spice are easily perceptible and equally enticing. Wonderful to see how well this wine ages.





Gessellman ‘Hochberc’ Blaufrankisch – 2011, Mittelburgenland, 14.5%
One of the riper interpretations of the varietal that we tried throughout the evening but none-the-less very enjoyable. This was admittedly one of my favourite wines for the night too. The wine shows intense dried black fruits, rich raspberry and blackberry jam notes as well as black tea, leafy and stemmy scents too. The tannic profile here is still relatively firm but plenty of juicy acidity and flow creating a harmonious balance. Perhaps the most pronounced wine of the Blaufrankisch flight in terms of flavour intensity and aroma intensity. The type of wine I want to take in front of the fire on a winter’s day!




Judith Beck ‘Schafleiten’ Saint Laurent – 2011, Burgenland, 12.5%
“Wine of the night… so far” were my immediate reactions to this wine. It remained my favourite also. It’s bright, it’s juicy but that’s all hiding behind red pepper, dried chilli, tar and barnyard character. It’s fragrant, structural and I absolutely love the tannin profile. Behind the funkiness there is blackcurrant liqueur, leaves and ripe red raspberries. I can see how this may not be for everybody but in my opinion this is unreal!





Kurt Angerer Saint Laurent – 2011, Kamptal 12.5%
Such a subtle and pretty wine. The initial thoughts all revolved around how much this reminded me so much of the gentle pressings of red grapes at vintage time and all that beautiful seductive, sweetly-fruited juice. A little vegetal character but this all is ‘prettied’ up. Morello cherry, sweet baking spice, raspberries and strawberry character on the nose. Very juicy but with concentration, intensity and great persistence.





Schloss Gobelsburg ‘Haidegrund’ Saint Laurent – 2011, Kamptal, 13%
This still feels very, very youthful and fresh. Classy, elegant but there is a spine to this wine too. A lot of pinot-esque character here; there’s red fruits in abundance and in particular red / sour cherries, pine and forest floor. There’s almost a watery texture to the acidity which works so harmoniously with the underlying mineral character that flows through the palate.

Gesellmann ‘Opus Eximium Cuvee No 25’ Blaufrankisch / Zweigelt / St Laurent – 2012, Mittelburgenland, 14%
Last but not least was an Austrian blend thrown into the mix. Undoubtedly one of the riper wines we tried for the evening. The balance here structurally was extremely impressive, in particular its acidity. Notes of plum jam, ripe blackberries, violets and chocolate powder on the nose followed by an abundance of ripe, lush black fruits on the palate with great length. Definitely a crowd pleaser!

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Terrific Gruner Veltliners from Austria – 2

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Schloss Gobelsburg Steinsetz Gruner Veltliner 2013,
Kamptal DAC Reserve

Schloss Gobelsburg is one of Austria’s oldest wineries. The winery is situated next to the town of Langenlois and is known for being the best producer in the Kamptal. The winery was in fact previously managed by monks of the Zwettl Monastery until 1995 but documentation of viticulture dates back to the 1100’s.

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Schloss Gobelsburg

Although some vineyard practices and winemaking have changed in recent years, the guiding principle at Schloss Gobelsburg remains the same: ‘Simplicity and strictness are the two motifs of monastatic life still working their magic in the cellars’.

Barrels are transported on wheels in the cellar and Schloss Gobelsburg see this as an imperative element of dynamic winemaking. Their belief is that the combination of minimal mechanical influence in the cellar and utilization of natural resources helps preserve the true authenticity of their wines.

Vineyards sprawl across 35 hectares and undoubtedly the most important varietals are Gruner Veltliner and Riesling but Zweigelt, Blauburgunder (aka Pinot Noir), St Laurent and Merlot make up the remainder of the planted varietals. Ecological and sustainable farming is encouraged on all sites and has been for many years. The monks managing the winery prior to 1995 believed strongly in these practices and would use organic fertilizer, no herbicides and minimal plant protectants.

Schloss Gobelsburg Steinsetz Gruner Veltliner 2013, Kamptal DAC Reserve

This wine was made from 100% Gruner Veltliner from the Gobelsburg Steinsetz vineyard which lies just outside the village of Gobelsburg. Steinsetz is one of four vineyards which Schloss Gobelsburg believe to produce the best Gruner Veltliner. The vineyard soils are made up of loess and tertiary gravel with vine age of up to 25 years. The fruit was picked in November 2013 and aged in large format Austrian oak casks until bottling in April the following year. The resulting wine has 13% alcohol.

The wine is intensely aromatic, authoritative from the get-go. Aromas burst from the glass displaying clove poached pears, green mango, white pepper, honeyed oat and grapefruit marmalade. Ephemeral moments of feeling like oaked Chardonnay and intervals of feeling savoury and herbaceous. There’s a lot going on and this is definitely only the beginning of a long life in the cellar.

It’s fresh, semi-creamy, savoury, full bodied and has energy and life to give. Focused, dense and just about ‘jam-packed’ full of flavour. It’s rich, it’s generous but turns a sharp corner and finishes long, dry and with serious minerality. There’s more of a baked apple character to the palate certainly amongst poached pear, grapefruit and there’s a faint nougat edge too.

There’s just enough weight but refreshing and mouth-watering acidity plays the perfect balancing act. I would have to say this is probably one of my favourite Austrian Gruners I’ve had. Maybe not quite as rich or oaked as some, but this meets somewhere in the middle and they’ve just nailed it.

The wine is balanced, it’s refreshing, elegant and as previously mentioned, it certainly has life ahead of it. I’m enjoying this wine with creamy garlic seafood skewers with scallops, prawns and swordfish but I can see this working with rich white meat, other seafoods and vegetarian dishes also. Wonderful wine!

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Terrific Gruner Veltliners from Austria – 1

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Loimer Spiegel Gruner Veltliner 2013, Kamptal DAC Reserve

Fred Loimer began his journey studying winemaking at Klosterneuburg. After years doing vintages in Nahe (Germany) and with Walter Schug in Sonoma (California), Fred returned back to the family estate in 1997 and purchased the former cellar of the Haindorf castle in 1998.
Biodynamic viticulture has been practiced since 2006 and Fred is in fact one of the founding members of Respekt, an association involving wineries from Austria, Germany, Italy and Hungary. The wineries associated have committed themselves to the goal of producing wines of the highest quality using only biodynamic methods.

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Loimer Spiegel Gruner Veltliner 2013, Kamptal DAC Reserve

With 200 acres under vine managed by Fred (owning most of them himself), the plantings consist predominantly of Gruner Veltliner, Riesling and Pinot Noir and are considered to be some of the best examples within the Kamptal. However, this particular Gruner Veltliner comes from the Spiegel vineyard, which is 5 acres in size and has pure loess soil. The yield is kept reasonably low (only 1.2 tons per acre) to ensure quality in the resulting wines. Ripe grapes are harvested in October in an effort to retain as much terroir in the wine as possible.

This wine has been made in the reserve style, which is a richer and more opulent interpretation of Gruner Vetliner. The juice is aged in barrels and left to naturally ferment and resulting alcohol levels are 13.5%.
Upon pouring the wine shows beautiful golden-straw colour with greenish flecks to the rim. The aroma springs out of the glass and immediately shows this is going to be a muscular and powerful example of Gruner Veltliner. To begin with there is a tremendous and inviting creamed green apple aroma amidst an abundance of green herbs and pears. As the wine slowly breathes in the glass it develops the trademark Gruner Veltliner white pepper with transient glimmers of doughy, champagne-like yeasty character.
The creamy, sweet green apple shines the moment that you taste followed by white pepper, pear and ultra-fine fennel character with a fresh mineral driven finish. Impenetrable, dense concentration, broad and expansive from the front-palate through to the back-palate. Powerful, creamy and opulent in its texture. There’s beautifully refreshing acidity playing a wonderful balancing act with the creamy, layered palate. The finish is giving and lush but that mouth-watering acidity leaves you eager for the next sip. There’s plenty of youth here, also plenty of authority.

In summary, a very enjoyable wine. I can see this working with a number of different foods from rich and oily seafood through to veal shanks, roasted duck and pork belly. In saying that I am drinking this with crab and zucchini fritters with creamy dill hollandaise sauce and they are working together in harmony!
Ever so enjoyable now with only a few years bottle age, but for the aged Gruner lovers this is definitely one for the cellar too!

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Tom Wood of Hahndorf Hill explores a Blaufrankisch from Pittnauer

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Pittnauer is a very well-known producer located along the eastern shore of the Neusiedlersee, Burgenland. Gerhard and Brigitte took over the winery nearly 20 years ago and have gained much recognition ever since. In 2014, Pittnauer was voted by Falstaff Magazine as the winemaker of the year. This is the highest accolade for winemaking in Austria!

The vineyard practices have changed since 1998 however, and since 2006 the viticulture has all been done biodynamically. The specialty for Pittnauer is St Laurent, Zweigelt, Blaufrankisch and they even make a wonderful Austrian interpretation of Pinot Noir. The resulting wines are described as being very well balanced, structured and elegant and the ‘Heideboden’ is no exception.

The ‘Heideboden’ Blaufrankisch comes from the Heideboden which is a flat but gravelly and low-lying area between the village of Gols and Lake Neusiedlersee. The wine is made from 100% Blaufrankisch which is picked and hand sorted then fermented in stainless steel and further aged in used barriques for nine months.

The Pittnauer 'Heideboden' Blaufrankisch 2014 at Hahndorf Hill Winery

The Pittnauer ‘Heideboden’ Blaufrankisch 2014

I’ve had this in the fridge for 20 minutes and it reads a perfect 18.0 degrees on the Vinotemp monitor. Ruby-purple colour to the wine and don’t let its transparency fool you, this does have body and delivery! Instant thoughts were ‘is this burgundy?!’ (despite obviously knowing better); it immediately reminded me of some of the darker-fruited and meaty interpretations of Pinot Noir from the Côte de Nuits but this feels ever so fresh.

Olives in brine, blackberry and almost a dried prosciutto aroma that leaps out of the glass initially. As time went by the wine then started to show a lot more bright, red-fruited character. The olive brine and blackberry has nestled right into the background playing quite a nice supporting role. Aromas of fresh raspberry, juiced oranges, ripe blueberry, sarsaparilla and a spicy, floral incense have arrived right at the forefront and there’s barely noticeable oak work in sight.

The palate follows with raspberry and blueberry but there’s a dark chocolate that comes through with the faintest of bitterness; however not off-putting in the slightest. One very noticeable feature of structure here is alcohol, or the lack thereof. I’ve found myself double checking the alcohol at times which sits at 12.5%. The palate flows seamlessly. There is a raspberry-like acidity and the softest lick of tannin. The balance here is admirable. Honestly, it’s the type of wine I’m enjoying so much now for its freshness and I don’t want to see this sit in my cellar for too long; in saying that I’d be very interested in seeing some bottle development in a few years’ time.

I could see this working really well with Greek-style red meats, in particular with quite heavy garlic and salt content. It’d also work very well with thyme roasted mushrooms! Overall thoughts – the wine is very well balanced with great flavour intensity and wonderful value for money!

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Two Gruner Veltliner tastings in the Adelaide Hills

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November was an important milestone for us at Hahndorf Hill Winery as our ‘White Mischief’ Gruner Veltliner 2016 won the Trophy for Best Gruner Veltliner at the Adelaide Hills Wine Show 2016, plus we were awarded the Trophy for Best Producer of Show (<100 tonnes).

Nick Stock, Chairman of Judges, spoke at the Show’s award lunch about how the Gruner Veltliner producers in the Adelaide Hills had made ‘amazing strides in a relatively short time’.

This success followed on from our ‘GRU’ Gruner Veltliner 2015 being selected to represent Australia at the prestigious Six Nations Wine Challenge 2016, where it brought home a Double Gold Medal.

November also featured the highlights of two separate Gruner Veltliner tastings – one organised by ourselves for our staff at the Hahndorf Hill cellar door, and the other organised by Willi Klinger, managing director of the Austrian Wine Marketing Board. This tasting was held in association with Nick Stock and the Adelaide Hills Wine Region and held at the Stanley Bridge Hotel in nearby Verdun.

Tasting 1 – staff training at HHW cellar door

The aim of the Hahndorf Hill Gruner Tasting was to further refine our staffs’ understanding of this wonderful grape variety, and various flights were arranged in order of style and age, featuring both Austrian and New World versions.

Gruner Veltliner at Hahndorf Hill Winery

Staff training Gruner tasting at Hahndorf Hill

Gruner Veltliner Adelaide Hills Australia

Flight 1

Flight 1 featured the Weinhofmeisterei Mathias Hirtzberger ‘Treu’ Federspiel 2014 (Wachau); the Pike & Joyce ‘Separe’ 2014 (Adelaide Hills); and the Am Berg ‘Kellerberg’ 2014 (Kamptal DAC).

The ‘Treu’ was produced by Mathias, son of the renowned Franz Hirtzberger winery from the village of Spitz in the Wachau. We met the friendly and innovative Mathias during our last visit to Austria.

The ‘Separe’ came from the beautiful Pike & Joyce vineyard in the cool Lenswood area of the Adelaide Hills.

The ‘Kellerberg’ came from a family-run winery in the village of Mittelberg in the Kamptal and, like many vineyards in Austria, the vines are surrounded by old fruit trees and vegetable/ herb patches – hence the owners call their property a ‘Weingarten’ (a wine garden). This wine took top honours at the Langenlois Wine Show.

Gruner Veltliner Hahndorf Hill Adelaide Hills

Flight 2

Flight 2 featured the Familie Hahn 2013 (Weinviertel Reserve); the Hahndorf Hill ‘GRU’ 2013 (Adelaide Hills); and the Nigl ‘Privat’ 2013 (Kremstal Reserve).

The ‘Familie Hahn’ winery is situated in the village of Hohenruppersdorf in the vast Weinviertel wine region, and, like the emblem of the German-heritage town of Hahndorf in South Australia from which our winery takes its name, it features a rooster (Hahn) on its label. Mr Hahn came specially to our cellar door on his last visit to Australia and we thoroughly enjoyed visiting his picturesque winery in Austria.

The 2013 ‘GRU’ was the ripest version of ‘GRU’ we have made yet, in our journey of learning in the vineyard of how Gruner Veltliner can best ripen with optimum fruit flavour yet still retain its bracing and characteristic acidity.

Nigl is one of a select number of Austrian producers whose wines can be found gracing the wine lists of top restaurants within Australia. The vineyards of Nigl are set in terraces along the Krems river right in the heart of the Kremstal valley, as well as in and around the medieval wine town of Krems.

Gruner Veltliner Australia Hahndorf Hill

Flight 3

Flight 3 featured the Jurtschitsch ‘Lamm’ 2013 (Kamptal Reserve); the Brundlmayer ‘Spiegel’ 2013 (Kamptal Reserve); and the Rabl ‘Kaferberg Alte Reben’ 2013 (Kamptal Reserve).

Jurtschitsch is one of Austria’s most acclaimed wineries, situated in the 1000-year-old wine town of Langenlois in the Kamptal wine region. ‘Lamm’ refers to its cult vineyard  (the name is derived from the word ‘loam’), although the soil in the vineyard is more famous for its metres-high layers of loess. The Lamm vineyard receives reduced late-afternoon sunshine and is also subject to cooling winds, so there is a significant fluctuation between the day and night temperatures.

Brundlmayer is another of Austria’s most acclaimed wineries, also situated in Langenlois. The vineyard used for this particular wine is also notable for its significant loess with its balanced mineral composition. The loess allows the Gruner Veltliner vines to be deeply rooted so that they are not adversely affected even in long periods of drought. This wine was the general favourite of the tasting.

Rabl is also one of Austria’s most well-known wineries, dating back to 1750. Rudi Rabl gives his wines ‘plenty of freedom’ in the cellar and is a true advocate of wild fermentation and long maceration. During our last visit to Austria we had the great pleasure of being taken by Rudi on a personal tour of the historic Rabl underground cellars and tunnels, which wend their way far beneath the bustling market streets of Langenlois.

Gruner Veltliner Hahndorf Hill Adelaide Hills

Flight 4

Flight 4 featured the Hahndorf Hill ‘GRU’ 2012 (Adelaide Hills); the Konrad 2011 (Marlborough, New Zealand); and the Stift Goettweig ‘Goettweigerberg’ 2010 (Kremstal DAC).

Our ‘GRU’ 2012 was the wine which won us first place in the 2013 Falstaff International Wine Tasting competition held in Vienna. It was developing well and in typical fashion was developing caramelized citrus components as well as characteristic tobacco elements.

The Konrad was the best Gruner Veltliner we have tasted yet from New Zealand, and it had aged exceptionally well. Konrad is the label of a German winemaker who emigrated to New Zealand, and the grapes came from a vineyard in the Waihopai Valley in Marlborough.

The ‘Goettweigerberg’ hails from the Benedictine monastery of Goettweig, situated on the south bank of the Danube opposite the town of Krems. At 449m above sea level, situated on the Goettweiger mountain, it offers amazing views from its terraces, as we can attest from having toured the medieval complex and enjoyed its tea-room and tasting-room.

Tasting 2 – presented by Willi Klinger from the Austrian Wine Marketing Board at Stanley Bridge Hotel, Verdun.

At the Gruner Veltliner tasting organised by the AWMB together with Nick Stock and the Adelaide Hills Wine Region, we had the great pleasure of meeting the irrepressible Willi Klinger, Team Managing Director of the Austrian Wine Marketing Board.

Hahndorf Hill attends Gruner Veltliner tatsing

Gruner Veltliner tasting hosted by Willi Klinger

This ticketed event was sold out very quickly, leaving many Adelaide Hills vignerons disappointed that they had missed out, but more than 40 fortunate winemakers were able to attend at the Stanley Bridge Hotel in Verdun.

Willi’s presentation of three flights of superb Austrian Gruner Veltliners was accompanied with wit and welcome insights. He revealed how the loess in certain Austrian vineyards can contribute to the creaminess found in certain desirable Gruners.

Flight 1 featured the Huber Markus Klassik Ried Obere Steigen 2015 (Trainsental DAC); the Jurtschitsch Klassik ‘Stein’ 2015 (Kamptal DAC); the Nigl Klassic Ried Senftenberger Piri 2015 (Kremstal DAC); and the Groiss Reserve Ried In der Schablau 2015 (Weinviertel DAC).

Flight 2 featured the Ott Bernhard Ried Feuersbrunner Rosenberg ‘I OTW’ 2015 (Wagram); the Tegernseerhof Smaragd Ried Hohereck 2015 (Wachau); the Brundlmayer Reserve Ried Kaferberg ‘I OTW’ (Kamptal DAC); and the Stadt Krems Reserve Ried Wachtberg ‘1 OTW’ 2013 (Kremstal DAC).

Flight 3 featured the Knoll Smaragd ‘Vinothekfullung’ 2006 (Wachau); the Schloss Gobelsburg Reserve ‘Tradition’ 2004 (Kamptal); and the Nikolaihof Smaragd Im Weingebirge 1997 (Wachau).

This was an excellent selection of wines and it was particularly interesting to see how beautifully the aged versions had evolved, lending huge credence to the general Austrian mantra that Gruner Veltliner is a variety which should be given the opportunity to develop in the bottle.

It was also very pleasing to observe that local Adelaide Hills Gruners are being produced with all the charm and complexity of the Austrian versions.


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Gruner Veltliner’s red siblings – Blaufrankisch, Zweigelt and St Laurent

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Hahndorf Hill Winery
  Adelaide Hills

On a recent trip to the winelands of Austria, we paid homage to Gruner Veltliner, the local white wine hero. (See earlier blog which covers our visit to Niederösterreich and the wine regions of Kamptal, Kremstal and Wachau.)

However, Austria has many other unique wine secrets and no less so than in Burgenland, situated south of Vienna in the easternmost part of Austria, adjacent to the border with Hungary. Here, the seemingly endless Pannonian plain stretches beyond the horizon, and the geography is as far removed as can be imagined from the Alps-dominated ‘Sound of Music’ landscape of western Austria.

The historic region of Burgenland, Austria’s oldest wine region, is known for its climate of hot continental summers. Although there is some snow in winter, many parts of Burgenland receive over 300 days of sunshine a year.

The release this month of the Hahndorf Hill ‘Blueblood’ Blaufrankisch 2015 is an apt time to revisit our journey last year to this red-wine heartland of Austria, where indigenous varieties such as Blaufrankisch, Zweigelt and St Laurent thrive.

Neusiedlersee, Burgenland.

Neusiedlersee, Burgenland.

The viticultural focal point of the region is the vast, shallow steppe lake, Neusiedlersee, which helps contribute to the mild climate by storing heat and facilitating a long ripening season. The lake’s humidity also promotes the spread of noble rot in certain areas, resulting in magnificent sweet dessert wines.

Burgenland is divided into four wine-growing areas: Neusiedlersee (Neusiedlersee DAC), Neusiedlersee-Hugelland (Leithaberg DAC), Mittelburgenland (Mittelburgenland DAC) and Sudburgenland (Eisenberg DAC), each with its own diverse terroirs.

Each wine area has its own charming central town or village such as Gols, Rust, Deutschkreutz and Eisenberg.

The charming village of Rust

The charming village of Rust


Detail of stork's nest in Rust

Detail of stork’s nest in Rust

Burgenland atmosphere

Burgenland atmosphere

The road through Sudburgenland

The road through Sudburgenland







When we visited Burgenland in August 2015, it was at the tail-end of a heatwave that had climbed to 40 degrees in certain parts, and the days were still blisteringly warm in the mid to high 30’s during our visit. Since not all hotels in Austria have fully-functioning air-conditioning, this was sometimes an issue when transporting and storing wine, but fortunately we always managed to make a plan and we were able to make use of the Austrian Post Office’s excellent wine service to ship many cartons of delicious Austrian reds all the way back to Australia.

During our earlier adventure though the Gruner winelands of the Niederösterreich, we had visited many of the top wineries personally in order to taste their range. In Burgenland, however, we found that some of our best tasting experiences were to be found in the local wine tasting centres which house hundreds of wines from all the local wineries.

Vinatrium Cellars in Deutschkreutz,

Vinatrium Cellars in Deutschkreutz,

These wine centres included the WeinKulturHaus in Gols, the Selektion Vinothek in Eisenstadt, the Vinatrium Cellars in Deutschkreutz, and the Vinothek in Eisenberg. At these venues one can enjoy a wine flight or pay to taste a specific number of wines from different producers.

Recommended examples of top regional producers include Pittnauer, Heinrich, Kollwentz, Moric, Gesellmann and Hans Igler.


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How cool are our cool nights!

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Hahndorf Hill Winery
  Adelaide Hills

January 2016 is possibly going to pan out to be one of the warmest January’s on record in South Australia – just waiting for the meteorological team to make their call.

Fortunately here in the Adelaide Hills, we have a secret weapon. It’s called ‘Cold Nights Throughout the Year’. Not only does it make my life more bearable in summer when heatwave-days melt away to positively chilly nights, but it is also one of the defining features of the terroir for our Adelaide Hills wine region.

The grape growing region of the Adelaide Hills is defined as being ‘Cool Climate’ not because we have particularly cold days in our summer growing season, but because of these cold nights. What this night time chilling effect achieves is a considerable reduction in our mean 24 hour temperature recordings which are calculated as a mean of the summation of all the recording over a 24 hour period. Clearly, the more frequent the daily recordings, the more meaningful will be the mean.

Temp logger in Gruner Veltliner block

Digital temperature logger used at Hahndorf Hill

My trusty little digital temperature logger takes a recording every five minutes of the day for the full month of January, which permits me to calculate the Mean January Temperature (MJT) at our site in Hahndorf.

On the morning of the 1st of February I dash down to my weather station to collect the logger and plug it into my desktop and trawl though the January temperature data. There are 8928 individual recordings for the month of January plus a handy chart that graphically logs the temperature changes for the period.

Temp logger for Gruner Veltliner at Hahndorf hill winery

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Note that there were 14 days in January 2016 that had maximums exceeding 30˚C which is indicative of how warm January was this year. There were also 10 mornings that dropped to temperatures below 10˚C, with the lowest being 5˚C on the morning of 17th January at 6.14 am.

The difference between the day’s maximum recorded temperature and the day’s minimum recorded temperature is called the diurnal variation – the drop between the highest recorded day temperature and the lowest recorded morning temperature.

The diurnal variation between the maximum of 35˚C recorded at 16.44 on the evening of 17th January, and the minimum of 7˚C recorded on the morning of 18th January at 06.34 is a whopping 28 degrees. This phenomenon of significant diurnal variations in summer is something that the Adelaide Hills has in abundance.

And the outcome of all these calculations? Well, our MJT for 2016 was 19.8˚C which is distinctly warmer than previous years, but still falls into the broad definition of Cool Climate grape growing, courtesy of the cold nights. Perfect for Gruner!

(To find out why cool nights are so significant with regard to growing wine grapes, please go to last year’s blog below:

The secret behind Gruner Veltliner success in the Adelaide Hills

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Gruner Wanderlust

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Hahndorf Hill Winery
  Adelaide Hills

In August this year Marc and I made another pilgrimage to the great winelands of Austria. The purpose was to immerse ourselves in their amazing wine, food and tourism experiences.

We were extremely lucky, all along the route, to be able to meet up with most of the winemakers at their cellar doors and to chat in depth about their wines. Their wisdom and insights were illuminating and their hospitality was endearing. Perhaps we were simply fortunate to trap these winemaking bears in their caves, as it was just a few weeks prior to the onset of harvest and they were possibly all just sitting around, kicking their heels and waiting for the action to begin.

First stop was the Kamptal wine region which is our favourite Gruner Veltliner producing region. Here the wines can have great finesse and complexity, and yet be lively and refreshing.

Langenlois town centre

Langenlois town centre

The centre of this region is the ancient wine city of Langenlois which has been renowned for quality wines since the late 11th century. The modern-day tourism theme for this ancient city is ‘Wine, Food and Flowers’ and it is embraced very seriously by all the locals who all contribute in small or fantastical ways with wonderful displays of flower gardens, pots and window boxes in every nook and cranny of the town.

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FlLangenlois town centre

rsz_flower_pot_4Flowers of Langenlois

The Wine and Food aspect is inextricably connected to this historic region, but its epicentre is now represented by the über glamorous hotel and wine centre known as the Loisium Wine & Spa Resort, which is situated on the edge of the city.

The Loisium designed by American deconstructionist architect Steven Holl

The Loisium designed by American deconstructionist architect Steven Holl

If you had any doubt about the wine-history cred of this city, all you need do is take a fascinating tour of the labyrinth of underground wine cellars and tunnels that are several hundred years old and which crisscross at 15 – 20 m beneath the city for many kilometres. This is where wine was made and stored and enjoyed for many generations.


Inter-connecting underground cellars and wine tunnels of ancient Langenlois

Another extraordinary wine tourism experience recently established in the Kamptal is the ‘Wine Walk’ that starts just beyond the gate of the Loisium Hotel and meanders for about two hours through the surrounding hills and vineyards. It is designed to be both informative and entertaining with frequent rest points that feature either information about the terroir and the vines, or strikingly whimsical constructions such as wind harps, giant quirky sculptures and elaborate shacks nestled near the vines where you can find pre-ordered bottles of chilled, sparkling wine awaiting your pleasure.

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Giant pruning secateurs

Giant pruning secateurs

Earthworm sculpture

Earthworm sculpture

Giant grape berries

Giant grape berries






Wine Walk Langenlois - wine bottle telescopes

Wine bottle telescopes

Sparkling wine shack

Sparkling wine shack

Relax and soak up view

Relax and soak up view






The Kamptal wine region has seriously elevated itself to one of the most innovative and enjoyable wine tourism experiences possible.

Favourite Gruner Veltliner producers from this region include Bründlmayer, Jurtschitsch, Rudi Rabl and Loimer.

Next stop was the medieval city of Krems which is about an hour’s drive from Langenlois, and is situated on a lazy curve of the Danube River. This is also one of Austria’s top Gruner Veltliner regions and has the added advantage of being conveniently close to the third, and arguably most prestigious Gruner region of Austria, the Wachau.
KremsKrems is a charming walled university city with gracious, shady, tree-lined streets. Favourite Gruner producers in the Kremstal wine region include Nigl and Bert Salomon who has a cellar door and vineyard in the centre of the city.

A convenient drive from Krems, along the meandering Danube, is the UNESCO World Heritage site of the Wachau wine region. Ancient ruined castles cling to the steep hills that overshadow the river and dramatic wine terraces tumble down to the river’s edge. This is an enchanted land that also plays host to some of the most respected Gruner Veltliner producers in Austria.

PX Pichler flash new winery

PX Pichler’s flash new winery

Favourite producers in the Wachau are Knoll, PX Pichler (whose cellar door was completely sold out of Gruner Veltliner) and Franz Hirtzberger.
Another worthwhile winery destination in this region is Domäne Wachau, which has a great selection of styles of Gruner Veltliner from many different and varying vineyards in the region. We were delighted and surprised to see a bottle of our own Hahndorf Hill GRU Gruner Veltliner tucked up amongst their collection of empties from their favourite Gruner Veltliner producers from around the world.

Domain Wachau's trophy shelf

Trophy shelf at Domäne Wachau includes our own HHW GRU Gruner Veltliner

After one week’s adventure based in this premier Gruner growing region, we reluctantly departed to continue our exploration of the red wine regions that are situated south east of Vienna, towards the border with Hungary. This will be described in the next GRU Files instalment.



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Adelaide Hills – the confirmed capital of Gruner Veltliner in Australia!

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Hahndorf Hill Winery
  Adelaide Hills

Last month a Gruner Growers Group (GGG) meeting was held at Hahndorf Hill cellar door.  The main purpose of the meeting was to taste some examples from top Austrian Gruner producers and also to review all the Gruners produced from the 2015 Adelaide Hills vintage.

Hahndorf Hill Gruner Veltliner tasting Oct 2015

Adelaide Hills Gruner Veltliner tasting, Hahndorf Hill Oct 2015

I can happily report that it was a long and interesting morning. After tasting the flight of seven imported wines, we then proceeded to sniff and swirl our way through no less than 21 examples of Adelaide Hills Gruner Veltliners.
There are now 17 Gruner producers who make wine from Adelaide Hills fruit, with several making more than one style – hence the 21 wines.

Hahndorf Hill Gruner Veltliner tasting Oct 2015

Glasses await Gruner – Tasting Oct 2015 Hahndorf Hill

It is very gratifying to see how this variety has evolved and expanded in the Adelaide Hills with so many excellent examples of different styles of this wine.

Within six years of this variety being introduced to the region, there is now far more acreage of Gruner V planted in the Adelaide Hills than in the rest of Australia combined. It is also now the most planted of the so-called white alternative grape varieties in our region, with the exception of Viognier (which has been around since the late 1980’s). As a consequence of this, the Adelaide Hills wine show is now the first regional wine show in Australia to have a dedicated Gruner Veltliner category included in its schedule.



List of Austrian wines tasted:
Weingut Am Berg    Kellerberg Grüner Veltliner  2014  – (12.5% alc)  – Kamptal region
Weingut Bründlmayer   Berg Vogelsang Grüner Veltliner 2013 – (12.5% alc)  – Kamptal region
Jurtschitsch    Lamm Grüner Veltliner Kamptal Reserve – (13.5% alc)  – Kamptal region
Weingut Hirtl   Kirchberg Grüner Veltliner 2014 – (12.5% alc) – Weinvertel region
Weingut Knoll   Loibner Grüner Veltliner Steinfeder 2014 (11.0% alc) – Wachau region
Weingut Franz Hirtzberger Honivogl Gruner Veltliner Smaragd 2014 (13.5% alc) – Wachau region
Weingut Bründlmayer  Vincent Spiegel Reserve Gruner Veltliner 2013 (13.5% alc) – Kamptal region

Current list of Gruner producers who use Adelaide Hills grown fruit:
Alan & Veitch
By Jingo
Catlin Wines
CRFT wines
Hahndorf Hill Winery
Henschke Wines
K1 Wines / Handcrafted by Geoff Hardy
Longview Vineyard
Main & Cherry
Mt Bera
Nova Vita
Pike & Joyce
Smidge Wines
The Pawn Wine Co.
Tomich Wines

Hahndorf Hill Gruner Veltliner tasting Oct 2015

Aftermath – Gruner tasting at Hahndorf Hill

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